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What to take place: foot of breeding or complete cycle?

  
 
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 20/02/2004
Engormix.com
Argentina
What to take place: foot of breeding or complete cycle?
Newly I begin in this sector, but my family has had good success in the complete cycle of swinish production (pigs finished up to 100 kilos). Although they have suggested me that a good alternative is the pigs of foot of breeding. It would appreciate their opinions.
 26/02/2004
Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates...
Mexico
Yes desire to participate in this forum so interesting. But if they allow it to me, it would please me to participate with all width, so much in making application of data like in trying to provide them. I thank the attention that you/they are served to lend to the present, ahead of time and I take advantage of the occasion to reiterate them my attentive and distinguished consideration.
Sincerely.

Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates
 26/02/2004
Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates...
Mexico
My personal answer and for the lived experience, it is better by a hundred percent the complete cycle. Selling pigs takes it as alternative...
 05/03/2004
JAVIER HERNANDEZ
Mexico
you Have to think attentively. I want to be porcicultor, I want to be a geneticist and to sell foot of breeding, because it can associate with some commercial house and to be their multiplicadora, but it is only to process, to produce pigs to rake but with an added value. To be a geneticist is not easy. The commercial houses have a very big volume of animals that allows to make a selection to be able to improve the product that you/they sell. To cross a sow Landrace with a Large White and to sell it, it doesn't assure us to be or to remain in the market as salesperson of foot of breeding. What sanitary levels do we have to be able to move our females? It is not easy. I recommend you that you don't experience, you are devoted to what has been successful, and if you want it grows and until stronger. But he/she remembers: the one that a lot of sandal, little presses.
Greetings.
 06/03/2004
Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates...
Mexico
of course that I would like to associate with some of the big consortia, since most of my life has dedicated it to the Pig Industry, and my experience is as much in pigs as in complete cycle. Unfortunately, we have had terrible cycles inside the business that you/they have made us some time to pass in red numbers, and we don't have support neither official, neither bank. We have infrastructure for 300 stomaches complete cycle. It would be necessary to lean on with stomaches and seed, and a little in the pay of workers... Without another comment at the moment, and awaiting their answer, it is I pleasing to reiterate him my attentive and distinguished consideration.
Sincerely.

Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates
 11/03/2004
JAVIER HERNANDEZ
Mexico
Antonio: It is important to analyze what it happened you, and to apprehend of the failures.
What did it happen you?
 11/03/2004
Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates...
Mexico
is My answer for anybody. It is a secret that most of the porcicultores of the region was producing meat at a bigger cost that the sale point. We always try to knock down our costs, but this was materially impossible. My farm continues in foot of fight, I will never abandon. I belong to people that say it is necessary to fight to the foot of the Flag until burning the last cartridge." It lacks liquidity like to most of the farms porcícolas. I refuse to participate with the Banking, in these moments I sit down that the interests are high and they can absorb us...
 22/03/2004
JAVIER HERNANDEZ
Mexico
Antonio: If you fight against the production costs, you won't achieve it. For example: Here we have the cost of the food for kg of $2.65. He/she wastes away the pig 240 food kg in all their stage = $624 are only the cost of the food. If we take the base that the food represents us 70% of the cost, it increases 30% that represents the cost for weaned pig, the workers, light, office expenses, consultantship, etc = $187.20 more for pig, $60 for pig in question of antibiotics, $120 for depreciation of facilities, $50 for pig to improve the quality of the finished pig. In total, we find difficult a pig of 100 kg $1041.20, and we sell it in $1550.00. What happens is that it has been worked on nutritious conversions, have more than enough gain of weight, bigger number of alive born pigs, weaned adult. If you notice, we don't fight with the costs and to look for the cheap thing, because to the long one it is more expensive.
If I can help you, show me data and I will try to give you you solve. Greetings.
 22/03/2004
Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates...
Mexico
Dear Doctor: We take in farm the program of computations Pig Cham, reason why with pleasure we will put the data that he/she requests me at your disposal and that it sums up me. The group that you correctly direct it intruded for my state Guanajuato, and regrettably -until where me you - he/she didn't obtain good numbers... unfortunately. Guanajuato is a region where the swinish farms proliferate, and therefore you fights more with a without end of illnesses. Indeed, we are trying to knock down costs and to try to survive. I thank infinitely trying to help me. Believe me that I value it, and he/she gives me pleasure to know that he/she tries to help in the form that makes it, Doctor. It only subtracts me to thank the attention to the present, and I reiterate him my attentive and distinguished consideration.
Sincerely,

Antonio Miguel Gasca Vacates

(To the group that I refer that it intruded in Guanajuato it is the GROUP MEXICAN PORCICOLA").
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