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09/02/2005

Engormix.com
Argentina

to Use suture points more or less in the castration of females

Hello, to all and all. Maybe this question goes directed more directly to the Capaó, because for what you leave in sudamérica the females they are not castrated. In short, I suppose that it will use the thread that you/they use the castradores, anything of gut of mountain cat, it vacates of the patagonia neither similar things. Good, I know that for operatibilidad they usually put an only point in the wound. I sometimes put 2 or 3. Not because it is very big the wound but because he/she stays more cerrrada. I have observed that he/she is inflated the area a little, as if herniada, the abultamiento was he/she gets lost with the time, he/she wanted to know if it is for the rot of the thread or for my inexperience, sometimes, in the castration when taking between 1 minute or 2 in taking out the ovaries with young copies. Thanking your attention ahead of time, I say goodbye

09/02/2005

Capaó_Real_Jara
Spain

Hello Lucas, first if you are from Andalusia of where you are ?pues I am Andalusian also, concretely of The Real Of The Jara (Seville)
_ for the form of entering knows that you are a student of veterinary.
_ later, for the questions I know that you are inexpert, but that doesn't care.
_ AND if your you say that is for your inexperience, a thing doesn't square that it is:
_ the inexpert one takes more than two minutes in castrating a lechona.
_ if your you take one minute, you are not inexpert.
_ If, I use thread of castrating of the I number 6, and the needles I manufacture them.
_ the inchazón is devido to many things.
_ that that more it produces the inchazón it is in fact taking too much in castrating, because it is sign that is bothered the animal, giving the bad point it also produces inchazón,infectarse of urines, waters sucias,paja, manure etc.etc also.
_ the thread doesn't have to do for anything with the inchazón, because it is a thing that doesn't infect.
_ and another thing, notice if the bundle comes out him in the same court or in the groin.
_ because if it is in the groin it is broken and if it is in the same court it is infection, and the bundle is pub, you give him a cut and you check it.
I believe to have responded attn to your questions while waiting for your answer GREETINGS from brown mountain

09/02/2005

Lucas Valenzuela Márquez
Spain

I Want to begin manifesting my most sincere gratefulness to your answer Capaó of Real Jara. I meant that I take something more than 2 minutes or 3 in castrating, not the lechonas those of 60 days more or ´menos that these I find difficult more than those that have 35 kilos more or less. Good, the question was if more points were worse, and since you show yourself so receptive, I will ask you another question, if you don't care me I believe that it is certain what you say, as much as fewer take, better he/she closes the wound and everything. But for my inexperience I don't locate bién the place and for that reason I only get it after repeated intents. In the biggest it is I easier, because in occasions I locate the ovary, instead of looking for the womb or like it is called. You make a mistake, I am not a student of veterinary, neither anything resemblance. I use cotton, maybe be for eso.No I know it. I have two breeding pigs and I love to take care of them, and to make slaughter, clearing is. I am of a town of Granada.Alhama of Granada, concretely. I want to be appreciated your attention. By the way, I would love to buy you some. are mine bad, could you invite me some day to do that of the pigs with the testicle in the abdomen? another thing, when the pig is herniado for the testicle, What to make? first, before taking out the testicle, do you fasten the cloth with the thread, and.. then you do take out it as always, and later you do sew or what? I saw once make it but I have already forgotten it. Really, happiness, you are the best of those that intervene in this forum. He/she receives a fortísimo hug, if you allow it to me, of your friend that is it, Lucas,

09/02/2005

Capaó_Real_Jara
Spain

That there is lucas,gracias for your praises.
_Las needles doesn't usually sell them, but good with an effort he/she can that some day he/she tells you as I make them.
_me collides that if you are not a student of veterinary you know or the topic of the castrations attracts you, he/she gives me in the nose that..........
_lo of the invitation to see that of the ciclan, but it is that me most of times not him you until I arrive to the exploitation and they tell me :oye that there there are you dejao a pig that alone he/she has an egg to see that you make him.
_ like one makes, he/she looks at you I say it you fell me well.
_ cojes the testicle with the hand making him a clip until you notice that the tripes leave it stops behind and you give him the cut, I am not captivated anything, I simply stretch of the egg and the alone berrón he/she becomes unstuck or the tripes also, that that if I give him 5 6 or 7 suture points, so that they are not left and I list, that that if I tell you that later he/she will be formed a bag, but it is not of worrying, in advance sometimes up to two months he/she is cured and without problems, I believe that I already explained even to it enough times in different forums, because it is a question that you/they usually make it to me, until abroad.
_ now really tells me that you study je je je. and reason knows how to castrate pillin.SALUDITOS

09/02/2005

Lucas Valenzuela Márquez
Spain

Capaó, you if that are a phenomenon. Good, him that you don't know it until you arrive, it supposed it. It is normal. I admit myself, I am secondary education professor for English's especilidad and work in an IES of Granada, near Trick. From small I have loved the field and the animals, although I dedicated most from my time to the study and to learn English. Good, summarizing, my grandfather that died a long time ago taught to a neighbor and east taught to me to castrate the pigs, the pigs had never seen them. I requested work in a farm, as those that you have that they hold you the livestock, and the rest was easy, I observed how he/she made it and I practiced in my pigs. With a lot of uncertainty and fear. I tell you, the first one left it stocking, I became so nervous that it didn't hit upon to take out the one that is more far, so I sewed it, and he/she didn't die, about 20 days later I attempted it again and this time I got it, of course that I took, but every time I find difficult less work and success more quickly to locate and to extract the ovaries. That is the pure true, I don't have farm, neither anything resemblance, I win myself my sustenance giving class in the IES and I am crazy about to pass with the livestock, to take care of them, to castrate them, to take them to that mount them, etc. Wants to learn on chaste of pigs, I would like to differentiate the Iberian ones and all that well. I don't want to be devoted professionally to the castration, I make it for my, truly like I have so little livestock, in my area for the sacrifice you preñan the mothers before killing them, and for that reason I thought that it would advance more learning how to castrate that taking the pigs to the neighbor's farm that had hog and to lose the whole day in this. Good I love you that you should work as the person of which I learned, you are some phenomenons, I admire you seriously, you will have farm I suppose, good I would like you to send me e-mail to the address that I told you and we speak in private if you feel like it, I really admire you
. Be not suspicious I don't hide anything, if you want question, I don't know neither a fourth part of what you know who you are devoted to this, is for that reason that I go and I help when they castrate in the farm in which offered to work free, I always learn something new. By the way the needles are of bird language, I suppose, I don't like those curved.

10/02/2005

Capaó_Real_Jara
Spain

does it Fence surprise lucas, English professor, you know that one of my pleasure that could not carry out is? to learn English, I was with agostini planet in a course, but when I arrived the world I dropped above to the advervios I was disappointed and he/she leaves it, after I already defended in the basic thing, but in short if my son helps me I will remember it a little. He/she hears if it is really as well as you count it to me and there is not cat contained it is also a merit, because that he/she knows that of my we don't speak, but I have the luck to tell you that I had the best teacher in this proven occupation, and I tell you that with their classes I took on about five years in VERY not learning chapacharco I eat up they comment some since so-and-so it also castrates, but THAT it castrates or he/she makes as the one that castrates that when one really needs, NORMAL the taya is not given. With this I tell you that I also suffered my five years of career like the sufristes your if you are English professor, in my occupation, like you will see your four times of castrating and you could already practice it, you ASTONISH ME AND you FOLLOW ME COLLIDING BUT in short I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT ME CAISTES WELL. Because if the needles are similar to the language of the bird, right with an alone little bit of curve and sharpened by the two sides, your the dijistes the curves in another place je je.Pues if, I have field, non farm, left of the perspiration of my front, and a lot to work with forty years could write a book on the trabajo.Oye he/she looks for where they entered me desires of go to castrate to grenade, floor to often go to snowy mountain of I toss I am already planning the trip, give me some lodging cosejo and on the way inform me over there something of the topic of castrations and if there is big esplotaciones where one can work but neither I am of those that he likes to remove the work to other but he/she doesn't remove of knowing the information, good on eight o'clock I am to the msn we already speak online if he/she comes up. GREETINGS Champion

10/02/2005

Lucas Valenzuela Márquez
Spain

Castraó, greetings, you don't know how you go up me the morals. I that felt very clumsy for that made and you come and you encourage me, you should be a stupendous person. Good, a couple of things. First if you come to Granada, you can have from this moment my hospitality. God willing doesn't come in a trip lightning, and puediera to become trained the city and some places that I believe that they are beautiful, so that the enjoys you and your companion if lo/la brings. In short that eat I don't know how to contact with you because I don't remember where to mail I saw, if at all I have seen it, I don't remember it. I sent you a private one. Good I love you that if comes during the week to me bien,pues Monday work he/she doesn't come to Friday during the morning, up to 3 o'clock + or - I don't arrive to the capital.Bueno that God willing you had the messenger and we could chatear or indicate me a chat-room and I enter, by the way, the adverbs are not so difficult, most is formed adding the suffix -ly to another class by word of mouth, almost always an adjective. e.g. slow - slowly, and its position in the sentence is quite free, more than any other class of said palabra.Lo that I was very concerned for my first performances, and clear bothering the animal so much time caused that abultamiento in the side. Good, there is another thing that I want to comment, when sacrificing to the sows after barleys I observed that several they had the womb the gut to understand each other that it was more near the incision hit to the abdominal wall, forming as a small cyst, very small. Good I believe that it can be that for the nervous thing that it was well non intruduje the organs inside the animal one and did he/she maybe stay there, do I know that I didn't catch them with the thread, that with security, can that was for the damage caused when taking time? or didn't I simply push enough so that returns to their primary place? Being appreciated all your answers ahead of time and respecting of course the one that you don't answer for the privacy of your work to some. I say goodbye sincerely.

28/02/2005

Capaó_Real_Jara
Spain

That there is lucas,despues of so much time again I wait you are well, because he/she fell enough snow for grenade, I hope for next time that you decide to castrate some, it serves you a little more my small contribution and he/she remembers, the things are made without fear and every time they will leave mejor,espero a little to have satisfied your question of the forum a little, so spirits and you will already count me.

Ah, and don't have so much in a pedestal to a simple castrador, to which can be asked, decir,y also to teach, because they are normal people as all the other ones, they were not born taught, and if somebody says the opposite you toss it to me to my je jeje and I fix it. GREETINGS from brown mountain

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