Pig Industry - POTATO CHANCHERA - Nutrition


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29/04/2005

Engormix.com
Argentina

POTATO CHANCHERA

Hello friends somebody has proven the potato chanchera or Topinambur? if somebody has made it I would like to know which were the obtained results, their installation method, and their requirements.
thank you.

26/07/2006

Claudio Scandura
Argentina

ARIEL, I SEE THAT TENES DIFFICULTY to FIND THIS INFORMATION, I am IN THE SAME SEARCH, IN ARGENPAPA THE SIG ANSWERED ME:

Claudio:
The Topinambur, although he/she calls it to him potato, he/she doesn't have anything to do with the family of the solanáceas that is the one that corresponds the potato that we all know. For that that regrettably cannot give him much more information.
Cordially,

Engineer Agr. Sergio Costantino

I PROPOSE YOU US TO CONTACT OURSELVES IN THE FACE OF THE FIRST NOVELTY. THANK YOU.

14/08/2006

Claudio Scandura
Argentina

International–The advantages of the Topinambur or the potato chanchera
In many countries every time with more intensity he/she takes place the Topinambur or the good known one as potato chanchera, as a maximum producing of proteins and sugars, and adaptive to all floor and climate, resistant to droughts, icy and he/she doesn't know plagues. What would be captured in more meat at smaller cost, with yields that can vary of 50 until more than 130.000 Kg. for Hectare.
In the Topinambur or the “Pope Chanchera”, the levulina, pectin and inulina, they are their sacáridos, (sugars in a 68.6) at the simple cost of the humidity of the digestibilidad, they become glucose, maximum nutritious value.
The amino acids of their proteins 23.6, almost assimilable, in their entirety, to more their minerals, fatty, vitamins, etc. is those that allow to give an excellent nutritious value to this variety.
The National Center of Agricultural Experimentation of France has demonstrated an increase in pigs of up to 1.028 Kg. per day and in bovine up to 2 Kg.
In Germany one of the récords was achieved in production milky 6.000 liters year for cow, with an increase in fatty butirométrica, and a bigger weight to the weaning of calves, more than 60 Kg. of difference.

Published the 14/10/2004

Source: Todoagro

15/08/2006

María Maraggi
Argentina

Hello. I am topinambur producer or potato chanchera (helianthus tuberosus). We are producing organic, and as the topinambur he/she has inulina, we use it since as forage we are in the project of organic cattle raising, and the fructoligosacáridos and the inulina they are prebióticos that contribute enormous benefits to the animals.
We have had pig traditionally, and from last year we have bovine, you call and sheep to experimental way, to see how they respond before the potato chanchera.

22/08/2006

Canale Marcelo
Argentina

Mirá, interests me the topic, I am a breeder of Pig of San Luis' city, and I have 4 hás for the siembra. If me podés to inform what conditions it requires to sow (it Dilutes, earth, etc), if you sell the seed, how much I need for há, what amount it is. Thank you.

08/09/2006

Omar Two Saints
Argentina

Hello:
I am interested in knowing the vabilidad of the topinambur in a field in the area center of the County of the Neuquén. The cultivation would be low watering for aspersion. In general it is saline floor with values from 8 to 20 dS/m, with phreatic napa between 80 and 200 cm of depth. With contained first floor of mat orgáqnica (0,6 at 1,10). I don't find bibliography. with temperatures you Mediate Mín -2 and Max 12 in winter -
The purpose of the cultivation is alimentció9n of bovine.
I thank any information
Omar Two Saints
Producing omar2santos@gmail.com

08/09/2006

María Maraggi
Argentina

The salinity can be a problem, anyway, as vos decÃs, there is not a lot of bibliografÃa. Perhaps it suits you to experience with a little. Since he/she reproduces very well, the cost for a test is not very high.
MarÃa of the Carmen

08/09/2006

María Maraggi
Argentina

Hello Marcelo, I believe that the topic of the water and of the climate in San Luis is similar to that of San Rafael, for what the requirements are similar. as me I am producer orgÃ¡nica, I have to contemplate the competition of the overgrowth for the distance among furrows and among plants, since I don't use agroquÃmicos.

We sow at a distance of 0,60 m between furrows and about 0,40 m among plants, for that that, cutting the tubÃ©rculo in several parts, we use some 40 bags for hectÃ¡rea.

The topinambur adapts to different floor types, not a lot to the saline one, anyway, it is very sensitive to the fertility of the floor.
Where we have natural payment the yield it is sensibly bigger than in the other parts

MarÃa of the Carmen

11/09/2006

Julio Caesar Mombelli
Argentina

Regrettably the forum doesn't give me opportunity to carry out an I dialogue direct with the participants. I am trying to carry out some summary type on the species, to know which is the panorama varietal of the same one and to consult sobrfe some problems related with the cultivation, mainly control of plagues and illnesses.
Thank you

12/09/2006

María Maraggi
Argentina

Â¡Hola!
It is certain that the forum has certain limitations, however little by little it can leave arrived in Rome.
As the objective it is the discusiÃ³n cientÃfica, with concrete questions that you go making, I can go responding to the answers, if the conozo and but going discovering.
I am in contact with the University and I can go looking for their support.
MarÃa of the Carmen

12/09/2006

Canale Marcelo
Argentina

María Maraggi
Decime please the price for bag and give me a YOU. of contact. As you comment me we need 40 bags for there is. Please comment me if you send to somebody of San Luis with the objective of reducing costs of you Freight. -
Marcelo

21/11/2006

Horacio Filippelli
Chile

Horacio:
He/she wanted to know if somebody has fed Livestock with the shaft of Topinambur.
How result has obtained?
How is there him ensilado?
If it used it mixing the shaft with something more, or alone?
Only using the shaft, not the tubers.
Thank you.

21/11/2006

Sergio Churches
Argentina

My name is Sergio and we are devoted to the breeding of pigs. Please, I need somebody inside the forum to comment us how to get the semilla/tubérculo and to what market price. Since I am in Fraga to 50 km of San Luis, we could make synergy for the one it freights if it is profitable, and more cultural data (for ejem. when you siembra). I see a great opportunity of productivity for the feeding in pigs.

21/11/2006

María Maraggi
Argentina

Hello Sergio. I blindfold topinambur seed, so much organic as conventional. I blindfold it for bag, although at this time we no longer have. Newly for March of 2007.
For hectare uns 40 bags is needed.
I am in San Rafael, Mendoza, in the district of the Walls.

María del Carmen

21/11/2006

Oscar Ismael Oviedo
Argentina

Hello. My name is Oscar, I am a producing pocino in the County of Buenos Aires. I would like to know if in county of Buenos Aires you can get the seed or the tuber to plant potato chanchera, and what demand type he/she has not to make organic cultivation but conventional. Please, if they could tell me how I get bibliographical material to self teach in the topic. From already very grateful.

21/11/2006

María Maraggi
Argentina

Hello Sergio.
I blindfold tuber-seed of Topinambur, and I am in San Rafael Mendoza.
The price of the bag was of $35 and then it ascended to $42.
For hectare some 40 bags are needed sowed at a distance of 0,60 m between furrows and 0,40 at 0,60 among plants. The tuber is cut in pieces to increase its yield.
Here in San Rafael it occurs very well, so I believe that in San Luis it will be same.
The next crop is in March of 2007.

22/11/2006

Daniel Adrián Herbalejo
Argentina

Hello Community,
Topinambur - Helianthus tuberosus–Compound -

It is a plant very employee, also, in helicicultura (breeding of snails), be to the interior of the enclosures or in the area of supplementary feeding.
It is of American origin, of up to 250 cm of high and it is the most similar thing to a sunflower (Helianthus annus), although with more than a flower for shaft and much smaller.
You the flame potato chanchera because to produce it it is planted a whole tuber or a tuber piece, like one makes with the potato, and they are given of eating the pigs (chanchos). Apart from this, neither if he/she wants it is a solanácea.

Daniel A. Herbalejo

22/11/2006

mauricio martel
Argentina

I am producing of the area of Sea of the Silver. In their moment three years ago, I proved with the topinambur, and I count them my results: to) The obtained green matter is abundant, but it costs that the pig the comma because he/she has hairiness that make it unpleasant to the tact. b) as for the tuber, although it produces a good quantity, equally it is necessary suplementar with having balanced. c) Something to keep in mind is the gathering of the potatoes, since it is a work that takes their time and cost, on the other hand, if you leave the animals that harvest them, they are too efficient in it, they give you turn the field and they eat you everything in little while. d) as for the siembra, it is easy to make and he/she adapts to all land, the only problem is to want to take it since out of the herdsman it is a yuyo, and if in one year he/she comes you very dense he/she doesn't make bulb. d) by way of conclusion I tell them that it is a help, but don't unite magic solution. I at the present time opted for the barley and for the sorghum, rotating the two cultivations that are of low cost, achievement good results and a considerable drop in my budget. -
PD: The topinambur seed got it in a position of the market of supply of Sea of the Silver.

22/11/2006

sylvester norberto
Argentina

Hello. I am reading on the potatoes chancheras, and my restlessness is given in its conservation once it is under conditions of feeding pigs... and if the floor of LEANED CHAÑAR (SACRED FAITH) ARG. it is good for this cultivation.
Greetings,

Yayo

22/11/2006

Leto Ignacio Echevarría
Argentina

I Coincide with Mauricio Martel, the topinambur is not something new, who has some old collection of the magazine The Chacra of the decades from the 60 to the 80, he/she can find sale warnings, and articles on this species. I proved it years ago, it requires good floors, and if he/she makes good foliage, it is not developed in the tubers, so that you should choose between to shepherd it or to take advantage of these last ones. The pig doesn't shepherd mayorment the foliage, and as for the tubers they provide energy, but you should give a supplementary food since he has near a 70 of water, and it doesn't gather the necessary proteins for a good development of the pig. It can be useful for small and extensive exploitations. Boys, don't become false illusions!

22/11/2006

Julio Caesar Mombelli
Argentina

Today I have taken contact with a series of consultations crusades among several participants of the forum Topinambur it has more than enough, and I am reflected a little in them some conclusions empiric about this species. What one is owed to take out of the head is the traditional use that you him dió to the tuber of the Topinambur. Now he/she is seeing it to him like an important matter source prevails for prebióticos and for the production of ethanol. I believe that somewhere around it passes the thing, although, as several they say, he/she has difficulties in their cultivation that you/they should be investigated and to try to solve them. It would be interesting to know if some has in view this species for an end that is not the livestock feeding. Separated, to try to know if there are works it has more than enough search from certain tolerance to the attack of Sclerotinia and treatments for the control of the white worm that makes havocs in the cultivation. The problem of the conservation that requires a quite big effort, is also unless the production lots are beside the place where it will be used.
I leave the restlessness, I will follow it because I am trying to interest some investigators of the INTA to see if they have information of this species in the production of ethanol, mainly. Interesting because he/she takes place three or four times what produces the corn. I am also in the revision of international bilbiografía, since in Europe he/she has studied it to him intensely.
Greetings.

Julio Mombelli

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