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Portion for pigs of 15 to 30 kg of p. v.

  
 
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 17/08/2005
Engormix.com
Argentina
Portion for pigs of 15 to 30 kg of p. v.
Hello friends. This is my portion for pigs from 15 to 30 kg of p. v. but we want to improve the food to obtain a high digestibilidad, better conversion, in fact we want to make it of high yield, you that it can increase their cost, but for us it is very important this stage. I wait their suggestions. To cease Gonzalez.



This is the current portion:



Sorghum 8.5. 673 kg.

Soya 46. 230

Flour of Fish 63. 50

Oil. 20

Calcium. 10.22

Phosphate 20/20 9.0

Lisina. 2.8

Salt. .90

Hill chloride 60 .45

Vitamins initiation. 1.8

Mineral initiation. 2.0

Total kg. 1000



Calculated analysis:



Total protein. 19.5.

Total fat. 4.5

Total Lisina. 1.31

Energy metabolizable Mega lime / Kg. 3,153

Total calcium. .947

Total match. .690

Salt. .210

Sodium. .087

Total fiber. 2.42

I wait their suggestions.
 19/08/2005
Jimena Ruiz Velasco Angeles
Mexico
Because you don't add him some enzyme, to make it more digestible?
They exist in the market several products to increase the digestibilidad in grains and leguminous as they are the xilanas, b-glucanasas, hemicelulasas, to-galactosidasas, etc. That you/they act in the fraction of polysaccharides non amiláceos (fiber) of the food. These products can increase until in a 7 the EM and 5 the digestibiidad in protein and amino acids.
 21/08/2005
Cesar Isidro Gonzalez Goytia
Mexico
Ok. Engineer, some mark especially, I say that in fact he/she enjoys recognition for their quality.
If you allow me I would like to give a wider reference mark to even support more your perception of the up to now has advanced, you that it is a point as much as difficult to fix a faithful appreciation for this means, but I wait he/she can help.

After meeting with technical personnel of BASF, you determines to run field tests with natufos 5000 that it is with the help of fitasa 100 gr. By T.M. and formi, with the help of sour formico 4 kg. By T.M.
Other marks have offered us enzymes but with the help of proteasa and amilasa.
I wait your kind answer.
 22/08/2005
Jimena Ruiz Velasco Angeles
Mexico
I was comparing your portion with charts of the NRC and other commercial portions. To my view you could improve your portion utlizando serum of milk in a 8-10. It contains 70/100 of lactose approximately. The content of soya 230 kg/ton is a little excessive. The soya contains many factors antinutricionales and not all are destroyed in the thermal process. The soya besides tripsina inhibitors, contains factors antigénicos that can create hipersensibilidad especially in the intestinal epithelium in pigs. You can compensate the soya with flour of blood, h. meat, yeast of beer, etc.
In my opinion the use of endogenous enzymes (like they are the proteasas and amilasas, alone they serve when the digestive apparatus of the pig not this completely developed as it would be in the preiniciación phases (6-15 kg).
I would recommend you that you used anyone of these enzymes: xilanasa, b-glucanasa or pectinasa (that they are the most common and they generally come combined). Marks? there are them of DSM, Finfeeds, Alltech. They work well for sorghum and corn.
Also this the to-galactosidasa that market us (it is not commercial). This enzyme works very well in leguminous.
Here you have several options, already if you needed but information, for alone obvious reasons has detailed information (investigations, commercial tests, etc.) of the to-galactosidasa.
 30/08/2005
victor war
Mexico
Hello, dear partner in the lapse of this week promises you to give the result of the nutritional state of your portion, wait for it we see each other.
 06/09/2005
victor war
Mexico
Hello dear thank you for their message and I request him it allows me to revise their data well and but to take this Sunday will send him the value nutricinal of their diet in pigs, without but at the moment I say goodbye greeting him, ah by the way has not sent me prices I wait for them in these days.
 07/09/2005
victor war
Mexico
how's it going dear partner. Due to your great desire, here it is my analysis with my software that I designed where I was surprised results since almost they are same, in the particular thing (modifications of your diet) I advise you to lower about 30 soya kg and suplementar with another ingredient proteico, the one that you like is good and cheap, and the results are:
NUTRITIONAL COMPOSITION

DRY MATTER 89.38
E.M. PIGS 3.15 Mcal/kg
RAW FIBER 2.89
EXT. ETHEREAL 4.63
Execution date: SEPTEMBER 7 2005
RAW PROTEIN 19.53
TRIPTOFANO 0.24
TREONINA 0.74
ARGININA 1.16
Description of the portion: PIGS OF IT PUTS ON WEIGHT FROM 15 TO 30 KG P.V.
METIONINA 0.3
LISINA 1.3
CISTINA 0.66
SODIUM 0.44
Name of the formulador: E.MVZ WAR RODRIGUEZ VICTOR
CALCIUM 0.31
MATCH 0.28
COSTO/Kg = NOT AVAILABLE

SORGHUM 673.00 Kgs
FLOUR OF I AM 46 230.00 Kgs

FLOUR OF FISH 63 50.00 Kgs
COMMON SALT 9.00 Kgs
PREMEZCLA MINERAL AND VITAMINICA 4.00 Kgs
CHLORIDE OF HILL AT THE 60 0.45 Kgs

OIL 20.00 Kgs
LISINA AT THE 80 2.80 Kgs
PHOSPHATE MONODICALCICO 1.68 Kgs
TOTAL 991.00 kgs

Ah by the way, these were the ingredients that I put, not you if your match is similar to the one that I present here. We see each other, I wait you have loved my work. Luck, until soon.

Your great friend
 08/09/2005
Cesar Isidro Gonzalez Goytia
Mexico
how's it going Dr. Firstly I want to give you my most sincere gratefulness, and to comment you that in these last weeks we have transformed this diet little by little, and if you allow it to me I would like to send you the changes attaching the prices so that your evaluation is more objective.
The match source that we use is ortofosfato of calcium at the 22. With a price of 5 Mexican pesos for kg.
I will prepare the information to send it in the most complete way.
Thank you. Your more S.S.

T.A. Caesar González
 13/09/2005
yilber camacho
Venezuela
Hello. I wait gue it is well. Excellent but I need a favor. What happens is the following thing: he/she doesn't make a lot I mounted a cochinera. Could you say how much it is the portion that plays to pre-initiator, initiator, development and do put on weight?
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