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10/11/2006

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News: Argentina - Assembly of Producing of Swinish in Santa Faith

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Argentina - Assembly of Producing of Swinish in Santa Faith

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10/11/2006

German Martin
Argentina

I find very well that of joining. I am producing in Córdoba, and here it is also very difficult, they pay you very little, and above the price that has the corn. From Córdoba, my humble support waiting that it can improve this. Without more, he/she greets attn.

German Martin

10/11/2006

Walter Fabian Castle
Argentina

do I Wait that they make something for the price, because this situation is untenable, beginning with the price of the corn, and the lack of interest and support on the part of the government, neither to say that I am of the Chaco, and does he/she take like a good crop of corn at 4tn/ha. You in Cba. they have you surrender much better. Greetings.

11/11/2006

carlos pesce
Argentina

I Hope they already take a profitable measure on the swinish sector, if they don't make it, we melt all the producers, and to our children we will have to take them to the zoological one so that they know a pig!!!!!

12/11/2006

Norberto Cristhian Lovera
Argentina

I Believe that the problem of the agricultural sector goes by the intermediation, that is to say, the industry. The price of the cold cuts, of fresh courts, of the milky ones and of the cow meat it is high, and the matter prevails it is worth less and less, it is evident who is keeping the great slice.

13/11/2006

mauricio martel
Argentina

The swinish producers are the sector less together of the market, we should implement political of block, because what happens to us is our blame, one cannot sell to deficit, and much less prices when the costs and inputs grow in an alarming way. If the pig is not business in his initial stage, and it is it in the other levels of the product, it is not another option that to look for the way to add him value to our animals. With the faenarlos fact and trozarlos, the profitability already increases in a 35, it is preferable to begin to think as managers, or if not to look for another activity. The blame is not of the chancho.

13/11/2006

Norberto Cristhian Lovera
Argentina

Dear Mauricio:
I don't share your appreciations, and I explain to you why: in the first place, you would have to know how he/she went to the producers associated to SIP, a vertical associative emprendimiento. On the other hand, with that approach, those producing of bovine meat would owe faenar their own cows, the poultry sellers the same thing, and this way all the sectors. We are producing, non butchers.

13/11/2006

SHADE HUGO MARCELO
Argentina

I am a small supplier of courts fresh and half head, and I support to those producing of pig that you/they break the loin laburando, I don't know much of politics, but if he/she had it to my side to the GENTLEMAN PRESIDENT, he/she would request him he/she explains to me why the pig doesn't have an iva of the 10,5 as the cow. I also share the thought of a producer that he/she said that it is necessary to unite, it is more to PERSEVERE in the unit. I also respond to Mauricio: to raise pigs is a completely different company to create a company and to market the products. Me you Mauricio, why I tell it to you. I also think to what interests he/she corresponds having the corn to 380 pesos.

13/11/2006

mauricio martel
Argentina

I Respond to your comments, since I see that perhaps they didn't understand me. The vertical integration to try to arrive to the consumer, I understand that it is difficult, but if we choose to raise pigs it is because we like the difficult thing. Equally today one cannot speak of being simply a producer, today it is necessary to be a manager, to adapt costs and to always look for the biggest benefits. It is complex, but if we don't make it in countries like ours, we cannot wait to that somebody makes it, our sector is weak in its organization. I don't request that we are butchers, I only want us to live worthily off what we take place, and if it stops that I have to arrive to the counter in some way, welcome it is.

14/11/2006

Javier Farina
Argentina

it is hour that those people that were filled the mouth speaking, saying that they made disappear the swinish pest, and that the swinish sector had gone back thanks to its administration, roll up and really act, and not making you position of things that they were given by chance and luck, because the disappearance of the swinish pest was due to that he/she decreased the number of heads of the swinish livestock, and they were only those they made the things well, and not for the administration of some, and the good moment for which passed the pig was due to the devaluation and not to the administration of some. The swinish sector was, it is and he/she goes to continue being to the luck of the destination, something that can change, only if people that are linked to this sector roll up and they work seriously, and they don't speak so much.

14/11/2006

German Martin
Argentina

I Agree with Mr. Farina, here the politicians speak a lot and they always harm us. We have to make taste like the society what costs to raise a pig so that later they pay you misery, and it is necessary to diffuse more the consumption in the country that is low. He/she greets attn.

German Martin

14/11/2006

Diego Anderson
Argentina

it is necessary to create an entity regulator of the price, because we don't forget that last year for this time, the price was of almost $3 +iva and a corn of $220, and us the producers speculated with the price and we wanted more money, knowing that we won +$100 for capon, and we cared a cumin if the industry won or it lost.
Today they win fortunes, they are retaliating. That happens to us to be a small sector, which is monopolizing. If this continues, the sector is destroyed again, and the industry doesn't need it because Brazil behaved very bad with them when here it lacked pig in the year 2003.
Greetings.

27/11/2006

Armando FAvian Feldmann
Argentina

In most of the publications that I have read diceespero that make something, I believe that in first measure what we have to make is to involve us because he/she gives the impression that we are hoping some few ones solve the things he/she stops later to enjoy.
I also believe that the country possesses very good laws as soon as measured paraarancelarias(eso is what I am investigating), I find that one of the measures that should be taken is to try to place a suitable person so that it controls the revenues of other countries and to make complete those laws.
Although this is a topic customs officer we have to try to place a person that defends the interest of the small and medium producers there.
We have one of the rodeos but healthy of the world and we are not defending it.
A.F.Feldmann

28/11/2006

Javier Farina
Argentina

I don't coincide for anything with Armando, I believe that there are already suitable people and they charge their salary, and if they don't charge it they should charge it, and they are people that at this time should be in charge of of the topic. Later on it will be necessary to change them? It can be, but at this time they are them those that are and they should be in charge of of the topic, and I believe that they should make something them. I claim it as producer, and for the time being I don't eat leader. Because if everybody wants to be producing, leader, deputy, butcher, etc., don't serve as anything, here what has to happen is that each one completes the list that plays him to complete, well and we are asking it to him, because we believe that at this time our list of producers is completing it, and those that don't complete are those that have us that defende. Does he/she understand each other the idea, Armando?

30/11/2006

Armando FAvian Feldmann
Argentina

Javier:
I respect your opinion, but the problem of this country (from my point of view), it is that those that have to make the things don't make them, and we continue this way waiting. It has cost very much to try to cover the internal market with our production, as much in investments as in training of personal, etc., and now more expensive Brazilian pig meat is bought that if they bought it in the country.
What I want to express is that if today he/she stops the entrance of meat of Brazil, and the entrance of the faltante nothing else is allowed, we would be already in another situation, and that is OPERABILITY that the state y/o lacks he/she ignores.
Then the idea is to try to push and to force to that takes place it.

30/11/2006

Marcelo Anzoátegui
Argentina

is truth all that you/they say, the space that has the Pig in the Argentina it is tiny, will the government be informed of the problem of the pig in the Argentina?? With these values of the corn we melt all. What can one make???
Greetings.

01/12/2006

Armando FAvian Feldmann
Argentina

As first measure, to make our president situation know, here I send them a letter I document dirijida to the Presidency of the Nation.
This is the first measure that he/she remembered in Place Raviola where they met the swinish productorees.
How many more letters are sent, more force will have. Let us don't forget that beyond being producing of pigs, for the government we are nothing else that votes, it is our only tool, let us don't waste it.

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Postal mail: Directed to the gentleman President of the Nation, Address of Presidential Documentation, Balcarce 24 - Cdad. Aut. of Buenos Aires (C.P. 1064).

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Mr. President of the Nation Argentina:
Who subscribes, as producing of pigs, and after having drained all the previous instances in the government's different distributions, he/she requests him he/she takes the measures that allow us to continue in the production, giving value added to the matters cousins of national origin, generating work, paying our taxes and developing an important alternative of sustainable growth of our country.

The requested measures the we summarize in:
• immediate Suspension of the import of swinish meat, attentive to the situation of I smash and terminal that crosses the national production, and it puts risk seriously the achieved autoabastecimiento.
• to Agree with the application authorities a National Swinish Plan to guarantee the sustainable development of the national swinish sector.
The current situation that accumulates a constant loss, is taking to many of us to think of abandoning the activity, with the consequence of loss of work sources and the difficulty of maintaining to our own families.
We request that these measures take in the smallest term to avoid bigger wrongs and the loss of the productive apparatus that so much we found difficult to get.

Waiting that with urgency the representatives of the institutions that represent us are received.

Mr. XXXXX JJJJJJ
DNI N°...........
RESNPA N°..............

01/12/2006

Marcelo Anzoátegui
Argentina

I find a very correct action, it is necessary to make him know which our situation is. I will join to several producers, and we will send a CD to the President. Let us hope to achieve something, that that if I am sure it is that if we keep the crossed arms, we won't achieve anything.
Greetings.

01/12/2006

Marcelo Anzoátegui
Argentina

Those producing of swinish ask to brake imports
The Capital - Santa Faith (30/11/2006)
The swinish producers of the region carried out yesterday a multitudinaria assembly in the intersection of the routes 9 and AO12 to claim for active politicians for the sector...
The swinish producers of the region carried out yesterday a multitudinaria assembly in the intersection of the routes 9 and AO12 to claim for active politicians for the sector and in that mark they agreed a petition one for the national government in which you/they synthesize the demand of political sanitary, of production and of commercialization that you/they are indispensable for the predictability of this activity, as the vice-president of Agrarian Federation Argentina said (FAA), Pablo Orsollini.

In the mark of the reclamos, the entities convocantes of the measure -FAA, CRA, Association Argentina of Cabañeros and the Association Argentina of Swinish Producers - they surrendered yesterday the petition one elaborated to the authorities of refrigerating Paladini, the main importer of pigs of the country, with the objective that the company accompanies some points of the reclamos that the producers will carry out the national government.

Although a priori the passing for the facilities that Paladini has in Villa Amelia thought about as an escrache to the signature, few hours before there was an approach of directive of the signature with agricultural leaders to outline them to accompany some reclamos of the producers in the face of the national authorities.

For that reason it is that those producing of pigs came closer until the facilities and they gave the contents from the petition one to the signature Paladini that committed to give an answer in 24 hours.

He/she remembered to claim the closing of imports of pig meat and elaborated products of Brazil, official actions for the recovery of this activity and articulation among production, industries and State for the promotion and consumption of pig meat and a national swinish plan. We are we autoabasteciendo like country and the imports the only thing that you/they make it is to throw for the floor the price, Juan pointed out Ucelli of the Association Argentina of Swinish Producers.

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