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How to replace the soya?

 
 
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 04/11/2003
Engormix.com
Argentina
How to replace the soya?
How can I replace the soya with another natural food in pigs to balance costs?
 11/11/2003
ENGINEER GUILLERMO ISLANDS ALVA
Mexico
it interests Me to know if there is a product that replaces the soya, with the same parameters nitricionales.
 19/11/2003
Caesar iván Pérez Rodríguez
Colombia
I find that it is quite difficult to find a substitute of the soya that possesses the same nutritional properties. However, I consider that the quality of the soya should be analyzed that is using, for effects of change of variety. If we are speaking of soya cake, we know that according to their origin the quality changes. Which is the reason to substitute the soya in the diet?
 19/11/2003
Andrés Looks them
Mexico
it is very difficult to substitute to the Pasta of Soya for the nutritional characteristics that he has, but you can substitute partially with ingredients that contribute Protein, which can vary in his inclusion, depending on the price that you/they have in relation to the same soya. As for example you can add canola Pasta to the diets, Pasta of Ajonjolí, yeast of Brewery, meat Flour, flour of Fish, etc., in few proportions and balancedly to be able to satisfy the requirements of the animals, depending on the phase in which you/they are including. Everything should be evaluated by means of a swinging of portions, to avoid to replace totally to the soya and to be short in some nutrients.
Saludos.
 24/11/2003
Luis Andrés Maldonado.
Guatemala
since your main objective is to balance the production costs, I recommend you that you think of substituting it for another food proteico of vegetable origin. And as always " peros " exists, in this case it is that the alternatives that you have possess some obstacles. Here I present you a little a listing short, but it can be useful.
-flour of Seed of Cotton: 41% of raw Protein, restrictive: it possesses a compound fenólico called gossipol, this can give you a reduction of growth and nutritious consumption, you can use up to 11%.
-flour of Peanut: 45-50% in raw protein (similar to that of the soya), restrictive: he/she needs a processed to destroy aflatoxinas, tannins and tripsina inhibitors.
-flour of Sunflower: 35-39% of raw, restrictive protein: it possesses compound fenólicos that have an adverse effect in the palatabilidad and reduction in the digestion of the protein.
-flour of Ajonjolí: 42% of raw protein, only obstacle: it possesses very little lisina and treonina.
He/she remembers that one of the advantages that have with the soya is that it is a very rich source in Lisina, therefore you can end up completing your requirements of the same one, and this is an advantage in question of costs.
 16/02/2004
Julio Guevara
Guatemala
The soya is a non fundamental ingredient, but yes of a lot of utility as for proteins, that which makes that it is very difficult of substituting for another ingredient. The most advisable thing to lower costs could be the following thing: to look for some mixtures that appropriate percentage of Lisina and Treonina contain.
 30/01/2006
Omarh Mendoza
Mexico
Greetings...

You can use PASTA DE CANOLA and to substitute at the 100 the soya in animals of but of 50 kg of weight provided you correct the energy contribution and of amino acids in base digestible (dig. True Ileal). For further references you can consult the it paginates web of Cattle Technique Mexico. In this magazine we have published a work for some years with this ingredient.

 01/02/2006
Emilio Moral Fields
Mexico
Paola receives a greeting from Guadalajara, Jal. Mexico of your servant Dr. Emilio Moral Fields. With regard to your question of being able to substitute the sya pasta, you can utlizar Flour of Anchoveta and qu etiene better nutritional qualities that the soya that I wait for those lands is easier of buying its cost since it is smaller than in Mexico, you can substitute the soya Pasta up to a 30, or in its case to Use Flour of blood AP-301 of American Protein, in relationship of 1 kg. for 4 of soya, he/she has an excellent composition nutrimental around the 92 of total protein and he/she has a biodisponibilidad of the 92, on the other hand the soya only has 46/48 of protein and 53 of biodisponibilidad, in that way you can formulate using these 2 matters cousins of animal origin and to lower your soya consumption and to make more profitable your you formulate.
I wait it serves this opinion.
Good bye Dr. Emilio Moral Fields of Fisiopatologia and Animal Production.
emilio_camposa@yahoo.com.mx
 27/03/2006
Gisela Garcia Baptist
Mexico
would I like to know what levels of ajonjolí pasta I can use in preiniciadores foods, initiators, growth, development, finalización, gestation and nursing in pigs, and what levels in foods for birds of it puts on weight and of posture?

Likewise, which are the restrictive ones in the use of ajonjolí pasta in diets for pigs and factors antinutricionales of this ingredient?

Thank you and Greetings.
 27/03/2006
Joaquín A. Paulino
Republic Of the Dominican Republic
Paola:
It is almost impossible to substitute the soya without reducing the productive yields of the animals.
I suggest it uses alternative partial:
1) H. CANOLA.
2) sunflower cake.
3) fished H..
4) by-products of poultry slaughterhouses.
5) H. meat and bone.
6) H. bleeds (eye), it is low in isoleucina, not to include more than 3.
7) peanut cake.

He/she notices: None of these ingredients can substitute 100 the soya.
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