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Article: Design of Biodigestores

 
 
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 03/10/2006
HERNANDO BERNAL STEEL
Colombia
Congratulations for the article, and thank you for the information given on the topic of the biodigestores. But he/she wanted that the topic of costs of the teams, infrastructure, etc. This was played it would be something very approximate because I am in Colombia, and I understand that the costs can vary. But he/she wanted to have some values them to allow me to see the possibility to undertake this project. I have a small farm in cold climate, in which I have cows, pigs and some vegetable cultivations. I thank the attention, and the possible answer will be of great value.
 03/10/2006
Juan Carlos Rooms
Peru
I congratulate Him for the published article that it encourages the restlessness of venturing in the biodigestores installation, to solve the problem of the electric power lack, and to improve the environment. However, it is important to know the costs of the investment, and if this finishes being recovered in function to the benefits and profitability that he/she would leave their installation. Thank you.
 04/10/2006
JAVIER GARCIA
Peru
to congratulate for this valuable contribution that it is constituted like an alternative in the use of non renewable energy for the rural areas, and as a contribution for the agriculture, and to stop to use the chemical products that you/they have gone creating very serious problems for the agriculture with so much abuse. Bigger diffusion should be offered.
 04/10/2006
Yadibiz Gutiérrez Jaimes
Colombia
congratulations for their article. but I am interested in a biodigestor màs handmade màs pràctico and econòmico to have it as demonstrative in the instituciòn and to project it to the educational community (students) and be applied in their fincas.agradezco their aporte,enviar to my correo:yado445@yadoo.com
 04/10/2006
zulay vallenilla
Venezuela
Hello: my name is Zulay I am I prescribe Veterinarian and I would like to know if you excrete them of rabbits they can be used in a biodigestor, thank you and congratulations for their I articulate
 04/10/2006
Pablo Infants Chávez
Peru
Hello Zulay Vallenita: These in the cierto,el guano of the rabbits and any other organic substance except the wood can be used as sustratos for the biodigestor, some require previous treatment before they enter to the digestor, alone it is necessary to keep in mind the outburst of the digestor that should be with the contained ruminal of the bovine one.
Successes - Pablo
 04/10/2006
alvaro gomez
Guatemala
I CONSIDER VERY GOOD THE ARTÌCULO, at the same time I COINCIDE WITH SOME INSIDE OF OF THE FORUM in relation to THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING INFORMATION FOR SMALL PRODUCERS WHO LACK ACCESS, SPECIALLY ECONOMIC, to MOUNT An entire SYSTEM TECNIFICADO.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE I ARTICULATE AND THANK YOU TO SHARE IT WITH ALL.
 04/10/2006
Pablo Infants Chávez
Peru
Mr. Urias Garavito López: To move their group electrógeno of 500 Kw/h of electric power you should have to take place a little but of 250 m3 of biogas per hour and this to multiply it for the number of hours that will have fastened the machine.
It is a pity that we cannot put on in contact via electronic, I have requested to the forum that he/she says the procedimiemto to contact you but up to now I don't have answer, however me me emcuentro the the phone guide of Lima
Greetings
 05/10/2006
Roberto Montanaro
Argentina
Dear Pablo: it has been a true pleasure to read their I articulate because it enhances the potentiality professional latinoamericana,ademas to thank him for the time that prepares to inform on these topics, so avid in our silenced regiones,desgraciadamente to the small producers this type of information is still unreachable when summing up a small emprendimiento,por at least the so much thing it is fundamental to my to understand, the integration between the farmers and cattlemen of each region, to be able to begin to materialize projects to medium term and this way to favor to the growth of the high-priority sector,es the existence of normative interregional integrative that authorize to the small and medium producing apoyarce in them.
I congratulate him for their dedication and zeal in contributing to the development of our pueblos.Tècnicamente their árticulo it is inobjetable.
My cordial greetings.
Engineer Roberto Montanaro
International consultant
Republic Argentina
 05/10/2006
Bolivar Toribio
Republic Of the Dominican Republic
Distiguido engineer Infant: from Sacred Domingo, Republic Of the Dominican Republic
I send him my sincere congratulations for their excellent article on the thematic of the biodigestores. Believe me that I am convinced that latinoamérica has a human capital of quality exepcional and you are a sample of it, still without me to know it personally.

Crossing one of the worst crises in the electric system are at the moment in our country. We don't produce a drop of petroleum and the import of this non renewable resource represents the value of almost all our exports.

Through the National Commission of Energy, beginning a plan pilot to install biodigestores in cattle exploitations are at the moment (pigs and bovine mainly). We have also agreed to install a demonstrative biodigestor in a point of great affluence of people. it is the Cattle City where annually he/she takes place the agricultural national fair. In this enclosure they inhabit in a permanent way about 200 horses in whose stables accumulate manure that cleans daily jointly with the bed of wooden sawdust that serves as absorbent material. I read in their article that the wood is not good sustrato pra to produce methane.
what procedure you suggest to take advantage of this material that daily according to a sampling that we made it arrives to 6,250 Libras (3,000 Kg).

A fraternal greeting of Bolivar Toribio Technical Veras,Director of the National Council of the Milk (CONALECHE). in passing I invite him to visit our country
 06/10/2006
Pablo Infants Chávez
Peru
Dear Dr. Toribio Bolivar: very grateful for their kind comments about the biodigestores like energy generators taking advantage of the organic matters of having undone.
Indeed the countries that don't have sources of energy covencionales like petroleum or gas propano/metano and mainly those that have not prepared their technicians in alternative energy sources will suffer a lot that we know it.
Because it is not time of speaking a lot of sinó to make a lot.
If you don't have petroleum or gas they should sow the Jatrophia Course or colza to prepare their biodiesel that will move them their transport or it will generate them electric power.
With regard to their question to their question on on the horse guano we will take it as example for graficar the potential of energy that represent those undone organic:
You say that he/she has aprox 3,000 kilos/d of fresh guano of equine, like average this guano has 28 percent of dry substance, that is to say you, he/she would have 840 kilos/d of dry substance, this dry substance he/she has like average 84 percent of dry organic substance that is the one that will produce him the biogas, that is to say 705 oTS kilos/d, the ratio of conversion of this oTS in biogas is like average 1kilo oTS = 0.30 m3biogas, with that which you could generate 211 m3/d of biogas that could have an equivalent one energy of 126 liters of petroleum or of 42 propane gallons.
If this mass of biogas transforms it into electricity you could obtain between 380 and 527 Kw/h depending on the methane content in the biogas.
I reiterate myself that the wood is an inhibitor of the development of the bacterias inside the digestor it is necessary to look for another material for the beds.
The technology is also a very important factor in the technical and economic aspect in in the generation of the biogas, if you build a biodigestor without heating the time of retention of the sustrato it could arrive up to 120 days, if you heat it to 37º C (mesophilia) the time of so that the sustrato is degraded totally I will be of 30 days and if it heats it to 55 ºC (Thermophilia) the time of degradation will decrease to 15 days, like you can appreciate the volumes of the digestores they decrease of volume according to the used technology.
Regrettably I cannot continue communicating with you because the right engormix is quite high, however if they want to locate me, I am in the phone guide of Lima/Perú or otherwise to negotiate with the company so that it lowers their rates.
Greetings


 07/10/2006
Helder Alfonso Ramirez Aguirre
Colombia
how's it going friend.

What I have understood it is that the monogástricos excrement is the best for this process, because that of poligástrico has a lot of cellulose.

Sincerely,

Helder Alfonso Ramirez Aguirre
Agricultural technologist
Administrator of Agricultural Companies
 07/10/2006
Pablo Infants Chávez
Peru
Hello Helder. Indeed, the monogástricos absorbs less the nutrients, and that leaves in the charts of conversion excretas/biogas. The organic substance of it excretes it of the hen, for ejemplo,1 kg. of their organic substance he/she takes place like average 0.48 m3 of biogas, and if the camparamos with the organic substance of it excretes it of the cow that has the developed better digestive system, he/she only takes place like average 0.25 m3.
Greetings.
 09/10/2006
Ricardo Albarracin
Colombia
Congratulations for their article. I want to know how much bovine excrement I need to produce 5 kw/h. Thank you.

 09/10/2006
santiago valdivia
Peru
Greetings cordial Mister pablo Infants Cahvez.
Its article on the biodigestores sitemas, is of interest, as long as it induces me to continue gathering information in this respect, since in my case I am camélidos breeder (German nickels and flames) in the Andean region of the perú, for I have it enough matter it prevails. That that if I am trying to get information it is on the behavior of the different batteries metanogénicos in the different altitudes. If in the rumen of the livestocks they are you present those bacterias, then my question esl. Swamps exist to 4000 meters on the level of the sea in the bofedales (you pasture them flooded of water). Does he/she ask me it is That you prove practical I have to make to check the presence of those bacterias metanogenicas?

sparregionarequipa@sparperu.com


 14/10/2006
Carlomagno Velásquez Vergara
Peru
Engineer Pablo Infants
very interesting their article has more than enough biogas. It is possible that me pùeda to send a small model of a biodigestor to build it with didactic ends or YOU makes them and / he/she sells. Please respond urgent.
 14/10/2006
Pablo Infants Chávez
Peru
Dr. Carlomagno Velasquez. For sure you are in Lima, serious good to be able to converse because a biodigestor is built according to the user's necessities, lament not to be able to him to give my address since the propetarios of the page doesn't allow it.
Luck
Pablo Infants Chávez
 15/10/2006
henry abelardo mamani chanini
Peru
good loque if he/she wanted to know very especially if they could us mnostrar a handmade design of a plant of of biogas comoo for a property already if to take advantage of the waste (you excrete of our animal )por favor sends us a handmade design to be able to make it and antameno thank you to share their knowledge.
 16/10/2006
eduardo flowers ore
Mexico
Mr. Pablo congratulates him for his publication, I want to see a plant where they process the biogas, I locate myself in the state of Zacatecas Mex. I want that he/she helps me to locate a plant near my region, or if some of the readers knows some, he/she would thank them a lot their information. thank you
 16/10/2006
luis Antonio Varagas Collides
Peru
very interesting the I articulate truly I have a lot of curiosity and necessity of installing one... pro the truth not you for where enpezar.
I have manure of cows sheep, pigs, rabbits, etc but desconosco the dimenciones etc, etc for that that estoymuy interested in but information. my objective is to take out gas to cook.

thank you
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