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01/10/2006

Engormix.com
Argentina

Article: Design of Biodigestores

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Diseño of Biodigestores

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01/10/2006

arturoceron
Mexico

Greetings.
It is very interesting what mentions, but I would like it managed costs benefit in small producers, or the form of installing a biodigestor.

01/10/2006

Roger Reátegui MOntalván
Peru

Very interesting the topic of the biodigestores. I work in the design and execution of Centers of Benefit of bovine, swinish livestock, ovino and caprino. One of the very important topics in these centers of benefits is the use of the contained resulting ruminal of the process. I find that it is a good matter he/she prevails to make a plant of biogas.
If they can send me data on this topic, he/she would thank them a lot.
At the moment I am participating in the culmination of the Municipal Refrigerating Slaughterhouse of Piura. We are in the period of facilities of the rielería and teams of the Plant.
I thank them anticipademente the information that you/they can send me.
Sincerely,

Engineer Roger Reategui Montalvan
CIP 20450

01/10/2006

Pedro León Toasts Peñuela
Colombia

Respected Pablo:
This magnifies I articulate, it demonstrates me that so seriously you work on the topic of the biodigestores or systems of treatment of biodegradable organic residuals by means of process anaeróbico, it gives us data of great importance it has more than enough production, propcesos, history etc, of high comparative value to know where we are as for this type of developments, truly, very pleasing surprise to meet with this article in my e-mail, God willing many follow their valuable example of presenting articles on the biogas or biodigestores, since they enrich us in the knowledge of this topic, in some way their I articulate it impels me to generate or to also present in a next future an I articulate on this topic in the forum, to share with all those that work on this topic, something of that achieved in our countries, as Peru (that you already contribute it), Colombia, Argentina and in synthesis any country where one works on biodigestión.

I don't have left but that to congratulate him and to wait that very soon it publishes something but, or that we maintain all those interested ones in the topic, contact for this means or other appropriate -

With my best desires I say goodbye.

Sincerely:
Pedro León Toasts Peñuela.

01/10/2006

Ing Gustavo González Enríquez
Mexico

When having a biodigestor in pigs and to be burning only the methane, is it better to have an electric generator burning this biogas. How characteristic he/she should have this biogas so that it is used in the generators, and what pressure is it necessary in the biogas so that the generator can work? Also, what cost or who are those that sell this type of motors, since I only know European technology, and in Mexico not you who sells them.
For their attention thank you.

01/10/2006

URIAS GARAVITO DIAZ
Colombia

I congratulate Him for this exhibition so interesting and detailed. God willing who manage any topic related with the agriculture, they deepened this way the concepts and analysis to take out them the biggest profit.
However, I want that for this means, you that he/she knows and it dominates the topic, he/she tells us if we can use a plant of biogas with the help of straw of rice and you excrete of livestock, to generate enough electric power dedicated to put into operation motors that you/they require 500 kilowatts or their equivalent one to 666 HP.
In summary, how many M3 of biogas is required and how I produce them. How many tons of straw of rice and you excrete and the volume of the necessary infrastructure.
Naturally these data will be very approximate and without any commitment.
I thank him their collaboration, because we are a group of very interested agroindustrial companies in the ecological development of the cultivations and the use of those undone.

01/10/2006

Andrés Taken a bath Oñate
Chile

Dear Friend of the Forum, he am very grateful with their wonderful contribution that is of an extraordinary utility to be able to install like a small Plant in our parcels. It would please me on way that I could guide to arm a plant of biogas, the smallest that you know, and of the values that it would cost approximate, and why not if you can install it. I Greet him and I Congratulate again for their immense contribution to the topic.

02/10/2006

Federico Fonseca Ruiz
Mexico

Certainly the use of biogas is a very viable option to reduce costs in the cattle exploitations, but in its presentation it is only focused to big plants of generation of biogas, and it is necessary to think more of the small proprietors that cannot make investments so big, for what would ask him what volume he/she should have a digestor or several for a small exploitation. I am medical veterinary zootecnista, and during my career I made a functional model of digestor of 0.028 cubic m, and I used you excrete since of bovine all the ruminant ones they already have in their digestive apparatus the bacterias matanogénicas, and in an occasion I attempted with you excrete of dogs, but in that occasion it didn't generate biogas. There will be stumps to inoculate in the digestor.

02/10/2006

Cesar Crowned Mauricio TO
Colombia

Thank you to keep me in mind in this topic of the biodigestores. I don't have a lot of knowledge in the topic. He/she wanted to know how this topic is applied in the poultry part.

02/10/2006

ttimpo mamani walter juan
Peru

I Ask to the Engineer I nfantes when and who use the biodigestores that have settled in the Peru. The reality vivencial of the Andean rural area of the Peru is of subsistence with low economic resources, mainly in the rural communities, still in some of them there is not electric fluid and they don't know a kitchen to Gas. I find you to demonstrate us and it illustrates us this technology European Chinese y/o adapted economically with local resources in small accessible and viable modules for rural producers of extreme poverty, and to improve the levels of the population's life and that they are not emigrating toward the capital Lima and other cities to subemplearse or to request charity to the ganster of Lima, abandoning their towns with good potentiality in natural resources to explode rationally.
Thank you for the contact to the company Engormix.

02/10/2006

hevert male jair
Mexico

it is very interesting their article, but I would like him to tell us how so feasible it is for small producers, because it sounds charming the idea that ourselves produces the gas that wastes away in our farms and the electricity, because with this we would have a considerable saving. I would like to know how much it is the investment that one has to make to maintain a small farm, this is an average of 1000 pigs, for the maternities and for the illumination, and what infraextructura dimensions I need. Now each how much I need to change what is stored in the biodigestor, or how it is made. Good, I don't have more than to congratulate him, because this is of great help for us as farmers, and to request him that him of the necessary attention to my petition.

02/10/2006

freddy
Colombia

Freddy Antonio Peace
Agricultural administrator
Villavicencio Colombia

Really Descrestante like we say in Colombia. I have always been admirer of the applicability that you/they give to the knowledge you. I was in a seminar in the Agrarian University The Molina it has more than enough Centers of it Puts on weight or you Feed Intensive. He/she wanted to know about the possibility about mounting biodigestores in remote areas of the country, starting from uses combined livestock manure and solid residuals to generate electric power, if there are possibilities of biodigestores planes.
Thank you.

Freddy

02/10/2006

GLICERIO GUTIERREZ G.
Peru

Friend: it is interesting the article. I would like that an article easy or simple of understanding (construction manual, prosecution, installation and use) to apply in the rural part where there is not the electric power gas propane that the peasants of the serranías of Peru require much of that service that most has matter the payment it prevails - grounds of bovine livestock, guinea pig that this service would offer him the development and improvement of life.
Ahead of time thank you for the understanding and social support that it toasts. Luck in the professional work.

GLICERIO G.

02/10/2006

Ulises Meadow
Mexico

I find very interesting the article published by Pablo.
I am producing of eggs of quails, and I am thinking of building a biodigestor to process the waste of my farm. to Somebody he/she could help me facilitating me information in this respect?... Ahead of time I thank them.

02/10/2006

W.Roberto Ortiz Ruiz
Peru

it is I pleasing to go to you to greet him and to congratulate him for the expocisión of this topic that contributes under the care of the environment, like they are the biodigestores.
I am producing manufacturing of pota flour (giant squid). As such, this product originates too many solid residuals. He/she would thank him to indicate me if these residuals are capable for a biodigestor, and if you could advise in all the concerning one to a project of feasibility.
Of you Sincerely.

W. Roberto Ortiz Ruiz

02/10/2006

isaac rafael cortez rodriguez
Mexico

good afternoon. Very good information. He/she wanted to know if they could be made rustic or rather more economic, and clear, to a smaller scale to be able to settle in a ranch.

02/10/2006

Santiago Ibarra Pérez
Mexico

I Agree with those that say that we should know something smaller to see of more fence their handling, and later on to make it industrial. God willing and could we see it.

02/10/2006

HECTOR MARTINEZ MARTINEZ
Mexico

Good, it is an excellent article, since we are in a phase of looking for economic solutions for obtaining of friendlier fuels with the environment, but I also coincide with some in information of something smaller, to scale of small producer, and of being possible costs. Thank you. Happiness ing.

03/10/2006

virgilio samniego
Panama

I See that one speaks much of generating biogas, of biodigestores, and I come revising the discussion which interests me for my farm to me. However, I have the whole matter it prevails to develop a project. However, in all the discussions it is spoken of the benefits that all today we know it, but they don't teach us how to produce that biogas. Somebody would thank he/she explained to me how to develop in a practical, understandable, useful way, the production of biogas with my waste. Greetings.

03/10/2006

elio becerra
Venezuela

Hello, good morning. I have just read their article, and I found very interesting, he/she helps us to take care of the medioambiente, and they reduce us the operative costs. I share the opinion of the partners on the description of a smaller biodigestor. I would like to know the characteristics that it presents the handmade biodigestor. Congratulations for their article, and ahead of time my gratefulness. Greetings.

03/10/2006

Pablo Infants Chávez
Peru

Dear friends of the Forum: Above all desire to thank them, modestly, for the praises received by the article. I want to thank to the gentlemen in particular Hugo Gargaglioni and Carlos Ember who converted the Power Point that I sent to Word to be able to enter them to the Forum, to them again my gratefulness.
This document uses it for my conferences, for what there are some points that it is necessary to clarify them:
-when one speaks of the relationship carbono/nitrógeno, the chart indicates a relationship for each undone organic, here it is necessary to indicate that the ideal relationship is of 30/1, that is to say 30 molecules of carbon and 1 of nitrogen. It is for it that a technique has been developed of blended of denominated sustratos Cofermentación, for example the hen guano has a relationship quite low c/n that becomes necessary to mix them with sustratos of high content of carbon, for example wheat straw, rice and others. A relationship correct c/n increases the production of biogas, but care, if he/she is given a lot of straw, what one can obtain is a biogas with little methane content. It is necessary to highlight that the biogas is only combustible when it surpasses 50 methane percent.
-in a square the denomination dry biomass exists and in another dry matter, these two denominations should be changed by the denomonación dry organic matter of the German organische Trocken Substanz (oTS). It is necessary to differ among these concepts: the dry matter is a made up of dry inorganic matter and dry organic matter, the difference resides in that only the dry organic substance (oTS) he/she becomes biogas, and all the charts are referred to this concept.
I believe that what I have published is not enough explanation to understand this technology well, the forum is not devised for this.
I believe that Latin America should give a qualitative jump, to enter massively to the technologies of the Mesophilia and thermophilia, this in what concerns to the fermentation humid anaeróbica, where the oTS is only 11 percent of the broth that enters to the digestor. In 10 or 15 years already nobody will speak of this process, all will be using the dry fermentation where the oTS will ascend to 60 percent, making the most compact biodigestores but, eye, all this should not suppose that we should forget our less favored siblings that live in remote areas: to them it is necessary to give them the knowledge and tools so that themselves solves their problems.
To all the members of the Forum that have written me to my professional contact, I want to thank them, but regrettably I cannot answer them because simply their messages cannot open them, according to the regulations of the Forum, I believe that it should be paid the service, but me not you where neither how much. I wait soon it dissipates these incognito ones with the officials of the Forum.
Affectionate greetings.

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