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A doubt about the descolmillado.

 
 
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 11/01/2005
Engormix.com
Argentina
A doubt about the descolmillado.
Hello to all.

We have a mini-farm with 5 stomaches and éstamos waiting the parición in April. Is my doubt if it stops descolmillar to the lechoncitos the root eyetooth it should be extracted or with you cut it coarse? with which they recommend me to make this process?

Thank you
 11/01/2005
Matarazzo, Adrián
Argentina
José Antonio, greetings from Mendoza, Argentina. In general, cutting with an it tiles properly sterilized to the level of the gum (carefully for not hurting it) it is enough. Personally I stop to make it. This practices it is to avoid that the lechoncitos hurts the udders of the sow and bring complications like mastitis or miais (bicheras) In my farm, maybe due to the climate, we never had mastitis problems and as for the flies it is question of avoiding them. For that leaves of making it? Simply because when the pig needs to suckle the calostro that is what contributes him the first immune defenses, you hurt him the mouth and it doesn't absorb the quantity that would should (the alone colostro this present the first days of nursing) I Hope these experiences serve you, cordial greetings. drian
 11/01/2005
Capaó_Real_Jara
Spain
Adrián, because reason doesn't cut them to him when it passes the phase of the calostros, instead of cutting them when being born that problem is for example to the 15 days, and he/she already received properly those defenses of the calostros, because the truth like you don't take off them in any nursing stage, poverty your sows mothers with the cut udders. GREETINGS
 13/01/2005
Matarazzo, Adrián
Argentina
Dear Jara: Greetings from Mendoza again. I don't really need to cut them because in the system that adopts I am weaning to the 21 days of having been born and it is really very little (almost anything) the damage that the lechoncitos produces its mothers in so short time. Clear this that up to now had been devoted to the market of the pig and of the puppy (recently now I will begin with capons, of there the consultation that I made you in another forum) so it is probable that he/she has that descolmillar so that when they walk for the sixty kilos they don't fight and they are not harmed, but he/she planned to make it later to the weaning. Greetings
 06/02/2005
Emilio Moral Mampos
Mexico
Dr. Specialist Emilio Moral Fields in swinish production
José Antonio:
I allow myself to recommend you and to make you know that the pigs don't need that they are clipped the eyeteeth, the nature is very wise for that reason it is that they are born with eyeteeth. What you should is to be careful that your sows are not fat and that they are not greased during the gestation, since a fat sow doesn't develop the glandular fabric adapted in the udder and consequently he/she won't have enough production milkmaid, therefore the pigs keep hunger and those most famished ones fought for the best teat and that it produces more milk. It is an error cutting them the eyeteeth. The sows should be in condition 3 Non gorda(5), not thin (1) loosened .bien at least 3 days before the childbirth and during all their lactancia.Consulta in internet, there is a swinish course of handling of maternities of the Dr. Shortening of the University of Barcelona.Espero it serves you this recommendation, greetings from Guadalajara, Jalisco.
 04/05/2005
Andrés Looks them
Mexico
If we are able to have a good production of milk in the female, with enough teats for the pigs in his mothers and with a weaning early (even of 28 days), it is not necessary to make the descolmillado, before even, it can be counteractive to make the cut of eyeteeth. Better we take care of the details of consumption of food of the female, good climatic conditions for the care of the litter and their mother. And if the pigs have enough I feed, they won't damage in great measure to the mother neither their siblings.

More voucher to prevent the problems that to try to solve them with that handling that can complicate the situation and the physical condition of the lechoncitos
 07/05/2005
EDUARDO MARTINEZ CHAVEZ
Colombia
Hello friends:
I thank information regarding how to cut the eyeteeth of a hog that it is producing lesions in the females, since esatan exaggeratedly long and in occasions it is very aggressive.
 08/05/2005
Oscar Arroyave
Colombia
we have checked that if there is enough milk for all, an extreme toilet of the bed paritorio is not descolmillarlos necessity, the good milk he/she makes sure with a feeding adapted in the gestation, also with the mother's good genetic selection.
 07/06/2005
Armando Valdez Jaquez
United States of America
In my little experience that I have I in the personal thing recommend the cut of eyeteeth at the same time reasonable since the handling can cause that the pig bleeds for the navel. And then it is necessary to tie him the cord. And the cut of the eyeteeth I make it in the half part for not causing some wound that can cause an infection that is to say the introduction focus until of some illness like the rinitiis atrofica. But according to the experience that has each one it can be effective in their handling.
 15/06/2005
to cease vargas
Mexico
At the moment I am making a thesis investigation on the descolmillado and the gain of weight in pigs during the nursing, and I believe that it is advisable descolmillar to the 1er or 3er day of having been born, this dependiando of the milky production of the sow, taking into account his genetics, I number of litter, I number of pigs, etc, but if we give a good feeding to the sow during the gestation stage, we won't have problems of milky production, let us remember that the sow needs 3400 megacalorias for kg in the nursing stage, good, it is everything. Greetings from pachuca hgo.
 23/02/2006
Carlos Amestica G
Chile
Hello friends. The truth is that a quite even opinion exists as for that of the cut of the eyeteeth, but of what it forms I find out that good quantity of milk exists, for not practicing the descolmillado.
 08/03/2006
Emilio Moral Fields
Mexico
The form of seeing if the sow has enough milk it is trying to order it. You will see if he/she has or non milk, or the piglets will be noticed trasijados, that is to say, sunken of the flanks and very probably with diarrhea, or cut as a result of the fight for the teats that yes they have milk. It is question of to observe and to have the enough patience to observe what I indicate you. Sincerely thank you, and see you later.

Dr. Emilio Moral Fields
Fisiopatología and Animal Production
 14/06/2006
Eladio Mèndez
Panama
A lot of pleasure, my dear Mr. Emilio Moral Fields. My name is Eladio Méndez. I have 6 pregnant sows, one completes now 3 months 27 in this month, he/she has an approximate weight of 250 pounds. Which it is the weight that recommends that he/she should have a sow at the hour that enters in the gestation until their childbirth, and what the most advisable thing in the descolmillado of the pigs.
I thank him as soon as possible their information.
 16/06/2006
Emilio Moral Fields
Mexico
A lot of pleasure Sr Eladio, thank you for the trust, receive a greeting from Guadalajara, Jalisco Mexico.
Regarding their question, the weight of a sow primeriza of good genetic line should be from 130 to 140 kgs. (280 to 300 lbs), since to that weight the sow will hardly have 7 á 8 months of age, in which is hardly maturing physiologically to be capable for the reproduction. But if the sow is Creole, then when it reaches the 100 or 110 kgs. of weight or an age of 7a 8 months. When for the sow he/she will walk around the 12 months of age, with a weight of 140 to 150 kgs.
For non descolmillar and that the sow doesn't have problems of lack of milk, it is necessary to avoid that you puts on weight because the animal is greased, and the mammary glands don't develop functional fabric and they infiltrate of fat.
The good handling of the nutrition and feeding of the sow is very impotante that is there where it resides the success of a good upbringing and a good nursing. The sow during the gestation should not eat more than of 5.5 lbs. of food per day.
Remember: fat pigs, difficult and uneven childbirths and lack of milk.
Slender pigs not thin, good childbirths, good production of pigs and of milk.
I wait they are he of utility my comments, see you later.

Dr. Emilio Moral Fields
 16/06/2006
Eladio Mèndez
Panama
thank you for their definition, Mr. Emilio Moral Fields.
Now I ask him another question, my dear one: how I can make to get Paylean, since I have been investigating, and in the brother Country from Costa Rica you can get, but the detail is in that the minimum quantity that you/they sell is of 20 bags, to a value of Bl.600.00 each bag, and I in my farm with an or two bags am I more than enough, since the quantity of pigs that you/they go to it puts on weight it is of 150. I thank him if he/she gives me formula of how this product is used.
 16/06/2006
Emilio Moral Fields
Mexico
Mr. Eladio:
Greetings. The Paylean is a product that is used of the 80 kgs. to the 105 kgs., only for 28 days in the final stage of the finish of the pig, to reason of 250 grs. for ton of food. According to the maker's indications, for what you only require maximum of 3.00 kgs. of the product for the pigs that he/she mentions (150).
The formula of the food finalizador should take a minimum of 0.95 of available lisina, keeping its relationship with all the other ingredients of the formula, so that it is expressed to the maximum the pig and the product.
I wait they serve him these indications. Without at the moment, I say goodbye. Greetings.
Attn.

Dr. Emilio Moral Fields
 20/06/2006
Eladio Mèndez
Panama
you Have a cordial greeting Mr. Emilio Moral Fields. Thank you for all the information that has provided.

I ask him a question: what quantity of food he/she should eat up a pig per day in the stage of growth, and when he/she enters in the stage of it puts on weight.

I ask him this since I use troughs made of concrete, where they are thrown the food in the morning and in the afternoon.
 23/06/2006
Emilio Moral Fields
Mexico
it Excuses the delay to respond, since I walk of trip outside of Guadalajara, but the fact that you. he/she needs it is: the pigs in growth go from the 30 to the 70 kgs of weight, and their daily consumption is of 1.8 kg for 42 days that the stage lasts.
And in finalización they last 28 days consuming 2.75 kg. for day, 77 kg. in total for pig.
I wait it serves him the information Dn. Eladio, and receive their friend's greeting.

Dr. Emilio Moral Fields
 26/06/2006
Eladio Mèndez
Panama
thank you, my dear Emilio Moral Fields, making reference in what is the stage of growth.

The pigs that I have have a weight average of 45 pounds. What I want to tell him with this, to say this way, they come in lot of 30 pigs, and the pesos are of: 60, 58, 54, 52, 50, 48, 46, 45, 43, 42, the lowest is 36 pounds, and they are among month and half to 2 months. Then, already to this age they are already eating growth, until when they arrive to the 120 pounds of weight. This stage is among the 50 days, and of there from now on eat it puts on weight. This stage of it puts on weight it can be in the 35 days.

In when to the quantity of food per day, I am for under to what you commented me. I am giving 3 daily pounds in growth, and in it puts on weight they are in 4 daily pounds.

Tell me you doctor, how I walk in this process with regard to which you comment me. THANK YOU.
 27/06/2006
jorge gonzalez
Chile
For José Antonio: José, the ideal thing looks it is not to cut at the 100, the cut one can make until with a nail clipper the cormillos is since relatively soft in the moment to be born of the pigs. The descormillado is made in general to the first day of having been born.
 28/06/2006
hevert male jair
Mexico
Hello. My experience, in the descolmillado, provided it is made in the half part and not affecting the gum, it is advisable, as well as the previous care that is had to give to the sow, like it is avoiding that it is fat to the moment to raise, since it affects the production of milk, and with this the case among pigs, for the toys.
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